February 28th, 2010
|08:32 am - Flat White|
Inspired by this metafilter post.
What do you think of a 'Flat White' coffee?
Never heard of it
I want to say more!
I quite like it, but it's much stronger than a latte or a cappuccino, so it makes me feel a bit sick. But I've only had it at Costa and according to that thread I linked above, the Costa 'flat white' isn't a good example.
Incidentally - a flat white is a bit like a cappuccino, but with a very much denser chewier foam.
Edited at 2010-02-28 08:38 am (UTC)
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 09:25 am (UTC)|| |
I've not tried the Costa version, but I don't find it too strong at the place I usually drink it (linked to below). I notice that the links say it can be made with either one shot of espresso or two and I suspect where I have it, they've used one shot. I always have to add a full teaspoon of sugar to the coffee I drink at Costa as I find theirs very bitter.
Apparently it was invented by baristas in either New Zealand or Australia - there's some rivalry so I hesitate to say which. It came to the UK just recently. A lot of Aussies work in coffee bars in London.
Yeah, it's an Aussie thing. It's my most frequent coffee order. I actually prefer to get a long black with some cold milk, but that's more of a mouthful when ordering.
Ordering coffee in Australia is like having to learn a completely new coffee language.
I only just realised how seriously it is taken over there. Is it because lots of Italians have settled there?
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 09:55 am (UTC)|| |
I hadn't heard of it but I hate any coffee with milk in it. Gotte be black for me.
I have milk in Earl Grey tea though, which is well beyond the pale!
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 05:23 pm (UTC)|| |
I have rice milk in earl grey too! (and rice milk in coffee). I wouldn't put milk in any other non-Indian tea though.
Obviously I am Australian; it took a while to get used to UK cofee-ordering terminology, and having the words I was used to was part of what I enjoyed about going back to Adelaide. But mostly I don't like coffee with milk in.
It's a measure of my indifference to the bean that I hadn't noticed that "flat white" wasn't an option in the UK, and was wondering why the "how about this weird thing, then?" poll about a perfectly normal menu item until I read the comments thread.
I first had a flat white at the Monmouth Coffee Company* at Borough Market in London, and it was great. Then I had one at Costa which was foul, but I don't like Costa coffee anyway. The Starbucks one is fine. And homemade was OK but not as nicely balanced as a latte, IMHO.
The secret, judging by the Monmouth experience, is the quality of the milk, which must also be full-fat (unlike a latte, which I think benefits from being semi-skimmed).
* Monmouth Coffee Company: if you are ever in London and south of the river (e.g. going to the Globe or Bankside) on a weekday, you must try this if you haven't already. http://www.monmouthcoffee.co.uk/NEWSLETTER%202010%20Issue%201.pdf
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 10:38 am (UTC)|| |
To think that when I first moved to the UK coffee was like tea's little poor cousin and even in some London restaurants they would sometimes use instant coffee. Now I can get Flat White and Semi-Skimmed Latte Caramel at my door step.
I only heard of it from the MeFi post, on the rare occasions I am paying for fancy coffee I usually decide I may as well have a mocha chocha frappucachino or something, but the flat white does sound very nice. I might have to go get some full-fat milk and give it a go.
I've noted the various chains falling over themselves recently to publicise their respective flat whites, but I've never got round to trying one. I'm quite interested to try, but haven't yet had an occasion when I've felt like risking hating my drink... :-)
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC)|| |
It's always a danger with these new/ different versions. Perhaps gather a few friends and all order something different? (Chinese take-away for the '10's)
|Date:||February 28th, 2010 11:12 pm (UTC)|| |
I'm amazed and delighted that you now have flat whites over there as it means you might be importing some of our (Australian and NZ) coffee culture; the style originated here. Do you also have long blacks, macchiatos, lattes? The best coffee I had in the UK (in 2004) was at Starbucks, so I'm glad things are looking up; we decided at the time to keep to your excellent tea instead.
Flat whites are my coffee of choice. They're creamy rather than foamy, and they don't have the heavy-handed addition of cocoa or cinnamon a lot of cappuccinos have. I also like the occasional latte, but only if it's in a glass and not one of those huge bowls.
We have macchiato and latte, and I think 'long black' is what we call an Americano - espresso with hot water. That's what my daughter has.
I had to click on the link to find out what it was (other than "some sort of coffee"). One of the comments in that thread was "But isn't that just a caffe latte?" to which the admirable response was "It's latte-er than you think."
Nice one. Now I'm thinking, the australian barristas in London are Missionaries for high quality coffee in the mornings. Almost Latte-day Saints.