June 12th, 2009
|04:49 pm - More BNP stats|
And on the BNP, Daniel links to this polling report which indicates that the BNP is not drawn from disaffected Labour voters, but from the Tory-voting minority within the working class.
If BNP supporters (have parents that vote Labour) are , male working class voters therefore, the natural conclusion that it’s Labour they are taking support from. This falls down, however, on some other questions - asked if they’d rather have Cameron or Brown as PM, BNP voters opt for Cameron by 59% to 17%. Asked to place themselves on the political spectrum they put themselves right of centre, in roughly the same place as they do the Tories. 22% of them think the Tories care about people like themselves, only 6% say the same about Labour. In short, the people the BNP seem to appeal to are actually “working class Tories” - the sort of traditional working class voters who under other circumstances might shift over to the Conservatives.
This is a great relief to me, as I thought these people were Labour supporters gone bad, very bad. This is how it has been presented in the mainstream media.
I should note that the rest of the article indicates that Labour and Tory voters are close together on many anti-BNP-type issues, such as disbelieving in racial inferiority, with BNP supporters radically different from all the mainstream parties, so I'm not saying BNP are 'typical Tories' gone bad either.
|Date:||June 12th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC)|| |
The current right-wing/Tory meme going into overdrive is that the BNP is actually 'left wing' because of its statist economic policies. Which pretty much ignores the entire history of political thought prior to about 2005. (It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the people who propagate this meme actually don't know anything about political thought prior to 2005).
Yes, and 'Hitler was a vegetarian' or something.
I don't think it's just a current meme - the Political Compass
has been doing this sort of classification for at least ten years.
Hmmm... That doesn't show which party is shedding votes to them though
I think they probably pick up support from various areas. I canvassed a couple on one of the council estates a few years ago who told me they used to be Labour but would vote BNP "if only they would stand in this ward" (thankfully they haven't yet, so let's hope the local breakdown of the numbers which I haven't seen continues to put them off).
But that's the only time I remember someone saying that explicitly (though I don't do as much canvassing as I should so can't claim representative results). Whereas in support of the report you quote, a comrade who was working in Burnley said that some voters who had previously canvassed as Tory were now refusing to say. We couldn't see that they'd choose this moment to get coy about Cameron, so concluded that they'd gone over to the BNP.
you've got a deadwood icon for everything - all human life is there
one person doesn't worry me - just tell them to piss off we don't want their vote