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11:40 am - A Bishop writes
Lot of news lately about Pope Ratzinger rehabilitating Bishop Williamson, the holocaust denier. Last week I was going to link to a couple of Williamson's letters, on the subject of women, which are displayed on the web site of his ultra-conservative sect (the SSPX). This week I find they have been taken down from the site! It's funny isn't it? Why don't they have the courage of their convictions? If they think his views are correct, why be shy about promoting them?

Anyway, here is a google cache of one of those letters, about why girls should not receive education beyond a basic level:

That girls should not be in universities flows from the nature of universities and from the nature of girls: true universities are for ideas, ideas are not for true girls, so true universities are not for true girls... If a girl devotes several years of her youth and much money of her parents to acquiring a university education, especially a decent one, how easily will she submit to her husband, especially if he has not had that education? And how may she not argue with him if he has had it? And if she has a "degree", how will she not think herself above the multiple humiliations of being "barefoot and pregnant"? And if she is a "graduate", how will she not hold-herself superior to being-a “vegetable at the-kitchen-sink"?


Good points sir!

Here are his thoughts on women wearing trousers (also a google cache of a removed web page)

For indeed women's trousers... tight or loose... are an assault upon woman's womanhood and so they represent a deep-lying revolt against the order willed by God.

Original sin, whereby Eve made Adam sin and not the other way round, entailed Eve's being punished, amongst other things, by the turning of her natural and painless subordination to Adam into a punishing domination of his over her, for she had shown by seducing him that she needed to be controlled.


Also here is his absolutely insane review of the Sound of Music

Can you imagine this Julie Andrews staying with the Captain if the romance went out of their marriage? Would she not divorce him and grab his children from him to be her toys? Such romance is not actually pornographic but it is virtually so, in other words all the elements of pornography are there, just waiting to break out. One remembers the media sensation when a few years later Julie Andrews appeared topless in another film. That was no sensation, just a natural development for one rolling canine female.


Is it me, or does he come across as a sex-maniac who has been driven more or less mad by his own obsessions with the female body?

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From:azdak
Date:February 13th, 2009 11:54 am (UTC)
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It's deeply depressing how every brand of religious fundmantalism appears to be fueled primarily by misogyny.
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 11:57 am (UTC)
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Yes, my feeling is that's not a bug it's a feature. It's not an unfortunate association is is the defining driver.

I think it's all about existential anxiety, which some people address by projecting it outwards and punishing, punishing, punishing the 'other'. So it's no coincidence he's also a holocaust denier. Jews, women, I expect he literally hates gay people and black people too.
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From:lamentables
Date:February 13th, 2009 12:04 pm (UTC)
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sweet Polyanna goes to the office dressed fit to inflame a stone, but woe unto the poor male colleague in the office who fails to react like a stone, because with recent laws (in the U.S.A.) she will attack him in court! Insanity! Places of work will soon have to extract in advance from women sworn declarations whether they do, or do not, want to have advances made to them!

*bangs head on desk*

I think I need to step away from the internets, for today they are full of people pointing me in the direction of bigotry and insanity.
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 12:08 pm (UTC)
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I know what you mean. Many days I just don't have the energy or will to go look. Today for some reason I am inclined to expose the bishop (as it were).
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From:iainjcoleman
Date:February 13th, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
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Is it me, or does he come across as a sex-maniac who has been driven more or less mad by his own obsessions with the female body?

See, this is why I should be Pope.
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 12:57 pm (UTC)
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Not nearly evil enough I'm afraid
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From:gfk88
Date:February 13th, 2009 01:06 pm (UTC)
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**all the elements of pornography are there, just waiting to break out**

Quick - where's the nearest video shop ?
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 01:26 pm (UTC)
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That Julie Andrews is a little minx, and the Bishop is onto her (or wishes he were)
From:cdybedahl
Date:February 13th, 2009 01:25 pm (UTC)
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But can you think of a more effective way to make Catholicism lose credibility than to have the pope endorse stuff like this, that most people today consider batshit insane?
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 01:28 pm (UTC)
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I suppose he would say he's not literally endorsing it, just un-excommunicating the guy. But the whole thing hasn't exactly been a PR-triumph for the Vatican.
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From:communicator
Date:February 13th, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
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I didn't know that. So, I wonder if he has changed as he got older.
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From:hafren
Date:February 13th, 2009 02:35 pm (UTC)
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Aw, bless, isn't he funny? And ignorant.

only in modern times have women dreamt of going to university

Depends how you define university, but Plato counted women among his pupils and Hypatia taught men (admittedly another nutcase bishop, Cyril, brought about her end).
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From:the_magician
Date:February 13th, 2009 02:41 pm (UTC)
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Ah, the modern times of 1880 and before
In 1880 Newnham College was established at Cambridge University. By 1910 there were just over a thousand women students at Oxford and Cambridge. However, they had to obtain permission to attend lectures and were not allowed to take degrees.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Wuniversity.htm
Durham in 1881 - http://www.dur.ac.uk/durham.first/winter08/whoswho/
Royal Holloway - 1849 - http://www.rhul.ac.uk/For-Staff/on-campus/Nov/plaque.html
Bedford College for Women, University of London, was founded here in 1849 by Elizabeth Jesser Reid
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From:andrewducker
Date:February 13th, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
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If a girl devotes several years of her youth and much money of her parents to acquiring a university education, especially a decent one, how easily will she submit to her husband, especially if he has not had that education?

Julie fully endorses this statement...
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From:communicator
Date:February 14th, 2009 08:24 am (UTC)
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Glad to hear it. I can't imagine you get your own way all the time :-)
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From:quillori
Date:February 13th, 2009 05:54 pm (UTC)
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I don't know - surely his Sound of Music review is greatly to his credit. I assume that, properly considered, his vows preclude not only having sex but also watching porn. Surely we can take his opinion that The Sound Of Music has all the same elements as pornography as evidence that he truly has never seen any.

I admit I am a little puzzled by his views on trousers. It is true that, as an atheist, I am mired in ignorance and doubtless lack a proper understanding of such things, but I had gathered, erroneously it would seem, that the Will of the Christian God is chiefly concerned with higher and more eternal things that matters of dress. I wonder if He has any views on when that silly fad for bubble silhouettes will pass out of fashion and whether it's okay to wear black and blue together? (Also, I would be grateful if Williamson could share with us God's view on men in skirts, and whether kilts count. What about longyis?)
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From:zenjammin
Date:February 13th, 2009 11:49 pm (UTC)
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Your writing style is similar to how my father writes (from time-to-time .. the humor in particular)

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