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December 25th, 2008


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07:43 pm - The Next Doctor
Doctor Who Christmas special was good for the first time ever. David Morrissey was excellent. I won't say more for fear of spoilers. I think this is the first Doctor Who Christmas Special I've really liked.

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From:hafren
Date:December 25th, 2008 07:57 pm (UTC)
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There was an "I'm not sure I heard him say that" moment at the end, when the Tennant character advised the Morrisey character to hang on to Rosita and he said "yes, my son will need a nursemaid". RTD must know a lot of people have pointed out his propensity for casting non-white female actors as maids - was he metaphorically thumbing his nose or what?

Edited at 2008-12-25 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From:communicator
Date:December 25th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
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I think it was referring that controversy, but not in the thumbing-his-nose sense. I'm putting a lot of freight onto Tennant's expression following those words, but I am certain he was conveying 'Now come on, man, you know better than that.'

I suppose it's possible this reproach was cooked up by the Director and Actor, to reinterpret a stupid line from the writer. I ought to know who the Director is. Anyway, personally I think it was intended that way by writer and all.
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From:kalypso_v
Date:December 26th, 2008 12:29 am (UTC)
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I think I noticed it was a woman, but I've forgotten whom.
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From:iainjcoleman
Date:December 26th, 2008 11:11 pm (UTC)
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I thought the "nursemaid" line was pretty obviously "this is the polite fiction we will use to refer to our unconventional-in-this-society relationship".
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From:iainjclark
Date:December 27th, 2008 10:36 am (UTC)
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Whereas I noticed it but assumed it was just a nod to the social realities of the era. I like your version better though.
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From:communicator
Date:December 28th, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
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Yes, that's more like it. And the doc's look perhaps 'if you need to say so'.
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From:toft_froggy
Date:December 25th, 2008 10:24 pm (UTC)
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I really enjoyed it! I thought it was the right mix of all the ingredients.
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From:communicator
Date:December 26th, 2008 11:10 am (UTC)
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And I thought Morrissey managed to convey a quite complex mix of emotions so well that it kept you guessing about who and what he actually was, but that he was obviously a decent and bewildered man. I was watching with my mum and sister and we all wished he could become the next companion - that would be something different. Obviously it won't happen.
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From:vilakins
Date:December 26th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
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That's very encouraging! I'll probably watch it tonight. I wasn't looking that forward to it since I think it's bloody Cybermen yet again (werl, had to be them or Daleks, didn't it?)
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From:communicator
Date:December 26th, 2008 11:11 am (UTC)
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Yes, but I thought it was a new approach, and it was mostly about the human people. I haven't seen many reviews that were less than positive.
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From:vilakins
Date:December 26th, 2008 09:16 pm (UTC)
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And I've seen it and it was fun! I had a couple of small objections, but it's nice to see a something positive and cheering for Christmas.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:December 28th, 2008 03:50 pm (UTC)

Daleks and Cybermen

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Yes, the Cybermen and the Daleks have occurred pretty frequently in the new style Doctor Who. I know what you mean. Familiarity breeds contempt, but we'd miss them if they didn't appear every once in a while....

The Daleks and the Cybermen are well up there, in any list of the greatest Dr Who enemies ever. The phrase "Doctor Who and the Daleks" is as appropriate as tea and biscuits...

The Cyberman look really good in this latest incarnation. They are no-nonsense, no argument, "comply or be deleted" villains who have simply got to be outwitted or destroyed as there is simply no negotiating with them. Their humanoid shape is the thing that peraps makes them slightly less fearsome than the Daleks...

The Dalek shape is pure alien, designed to trundle round the sterile environment of spaceships, spacestations and TV studios. It was not originally designed for its off road capability, negotiating potholes or stairs for instance...

So I think its a shame the Daleks ever learned to fly. They were at their most menacing when chasing the Doctor and his companions through the sewers of Manhattan, from a situation where there seemed to be no escape.
The Daleks on the London Underground, or in the Channel Tunnel would also be good to watch. I know you can do anything in Science Fiction, but the Daleks just don't work so well, for me, if they're operating outside of their design environment, levitating in space, flying through German forests even or trundling around the streets of Cardiff...

If I could bring back an old monster, I'd give the Sea Devils another outing. Seeing them stroll out of the water was frightening at the time and I still think of it every time I drive past the spot where it was actually filmed. It sends a shiver down my spine...
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From:vilakins
Date:December 28th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)

Re: Daleks and Cybermen

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I've seen the special and ir was fun! I enjoyed the steampunkness (and rather wished David Morrissey was really the next Doctor), and Dervla Kirwan was wonderful, though very badly served by her character's end.

I do love Daleks (and own three). :-) It's just that they, and Cybermen to a lesser degree, have been overdone by Rusty with his leaky plots and massed choirs. Cybermen I'm not so fond of, but they were well done here.

I just want more unpredictability: new monsters and aliens, and other planets.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:December 28th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)

The two Doctors, and Dervla !

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All the Doctor Who Christmas specials have been good, in fact they've been one of the best things on the BBC over Xmas. The first few were set in the present day which always gives the programme a interesting flavour. The weakest of the three was probably the 2007 episode, featuring the Titanic replica - that really was verging on the implausible. I've not bothered to watch the repeats of that episode, but all the others are still pretty enjoyable when they're shown on BBC Three...

For a change, the 2008 episode was set in the past. I particularly like the episodes where there's some sort of time travel conundrum to turn your mind inside out and this one, where two Doctors came face to face and there were two Tardis's was pretty intriguing...

And I mustn't forget Dervla Kirwan, who probably has one of the sexiest voices on telly. In this episode she had a dress to match that voice and she wore it to a funeral. It certainly was "too exciting". Ooooooh sorry, I've got to go now.... !!!!!
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From:communicator
Date:December 28th, 2008 04:03 pm (UTC)

Re: The two Doctors, and Dervla !

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The funeral was brilliant wasn't it. Though my brother picked the plot apart right away. If the Doctor had that magic wand, er I mean dimensional vortex or whatever it was, why didn't he use it earlier? But it didn't spoil it for me, because the story about Jackson Lake was so interesting.

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