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06:38 pm - Specialist subject: the Bleedin' Obvious
Here's another hilarious scientific study.

Dr. Bliss Kaneshiro of the School of Medicine at the University of Hawaii and Oregon State University professor Marie Harvey studied the relationship between body mass index and sexual behavior... The study, published in Obstetrics & Gynecology, contradicted widely held stereotypes that overweight and obese women are not as sexually active as other women. If anything, the researchers concluded the opposite seems to be true. 92% of overweight women reported having a history of sexual intercourse with men (cf 87% of women of slimmer build).


"These results were unexpected and we don't really know why this is the case," Kaneshiro said in a statement. "This study indicates that all women deserve diligence in counseling on unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease prevention, regardless of body mass index."

No shit Sherlock. 'We don't know why this is the case?' Because people like to have sex, you moron. Women who aren't thin might get pregnant? What an amazing revelation.

There is a shallow cultural myth, from film and TV, that there is only one type of sexy woman. Most women in film are thin, in their twenties, and immaculate of skin and clothing. Other types of women may be maternal, comic, stern or repulsive, but not sexual. It is shocking to realise that scientists and doctors, those who design and provide health services to women, are blind to the real life experiences of the women they see all around them, and have come to see only the myth.

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From:jthijsen
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
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Kaneshiro doesn't even qualify for an ignobel prize.
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From:communicator
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:49 pm (UTC)
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Oh, that's a good idea.
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From:katlinel
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
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"These results were unexpected and we don't really know why this is the case,"

head!desk (Oops, I broke it with all the power of my fat body.)

Does this person have a PhD in applied non-thought?

"This study indicates that all women deserve diligence in counseling on unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease prevention, regardless of body mass index."

Trans: Fat women should be treated like human beings by medical professionals. And she needed to run a study before she could come to that
award-winning conclusion?

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From:communicator
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC)
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Crikey, I didn't realise she'd won an award for it. I suppose if doctors were making that assumption we must applaud her for pointing out their error, but it's a shame it needed saying at all.
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From:katlinel
Date:November 2nd, 2008 10:19 am (UTC)
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First Do No Harm is a blog that collects stories of how fat people have been treated by medical professionals. So it does need saying, but the quote also makes her sound as if it's news to her too.
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From:hafren
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:58 pm (UTC)
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"These results were unexpected and we don't really know why this is the case"

- because we are a ass and a idiot. Rather like the young lady presenter of some programme on comedy recently who expressed pity for what a sad life Hattie Jacques must have had, never being seen as sexy. I'm sitting there yelling "She was married to John le Mesurier, you prat! The sexiest man in the kingdom!"

It is shocking to realise that scientists and doctors, those who design and provide health services to women, are blind to the real life experiences of the women they see all around them, and have come to see only the myth.

Don't forget all their drugs are tested on men, and the deault body for anatomy study is male...
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From:communicator
Date:November 1st, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I often think that about good old Hattie.
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From:watervole
Date:November 1st, 2008 08:13 pm (UTC)
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I think they were saying the unexpected factor was that overweight women had MORE sex.

Any result that doesn't have all women having roughly similar sexual activity needs an explanation.

Now, I don't believe that fat women are sluts who have sex with all comers to compensate for a low self-image, therefore, I wonder if the amount of body fat that we have affects our sex drive. It could perhaps have an effect on hormones in some way?
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From:kerravonsen
Date:November 1st, 2008 10:49 pm (UTC)
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This makes me wonder whether their definition of "overweight" is "not-thin"; because it would make sense that a woman who was healthily curvaceous (but unfashionably overweight by modern standards) would have a more healthy sex-drive than one whose body is famine-victim thin.
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From:iainjclark
Date:November 1st, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
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That's quite idiotic, isn't it?

(Also, with regard to "the opposite seems to be true", 87% to 92% doesn't seem like a particularly significant difference to me, and could be due to any number of factors depending on how the study was designed - particularly given the likelihood of participants not being honest - but I assume they took that into account.)

Edited at 2008-11-01 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From:azdak
Date:November 1st, 2008 08:40 pm (UTC)
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"This study indicates that all women deserve diligence in counseling on unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease prevention, regardless of body mass index."


Blimey, so they honestly thought fat women were so unattractive they weren't getting any nookie?
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From:executrix
Date:November 1st, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC)
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Obviously a literature review performed by someone who never heard the aphorism "You don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire." Or who was unfamiliar with the beautifying effects of ethanol.

All the ugly people had to come from *somewhere* and I assume that by and large they resemble their parents...

ETA: I wonder if male doctors and research scientists are all either beautiful or virginal?

Edited at 2008-11-01 10:05 pm (UTC)
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From:kerravonsen
Date:November 1st, 2008 10:52 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if male doctors and research scientists are all either beautiful or virginal?
I'd opt for the virginal - just getting into medicine means you spend all your time studying, and don't have time to learn how to pick up girls. 8-P
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From:lamentables
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:29 am (UTC)
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"You don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire."

That's a particularly repellent aphorism. One may as well speak plainly and say "never mind the woman, enjoy the cunt".
From:jthijsen
Date:November 3rd, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)
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It may be repellent, but it's something a lot of men think. I've actually heard an otherwise quite civilized man say "Who cares what her face looks like, you can always cover it with a newspaper or something", and the other guys in the room were grinning and nodding. When it comes to physical relationships, I've found that there are very few really civil people out there. And with civil I mean caring about the other person enough to not want to hurt them, feelings or otherwise.

As for fat, some people are actually attracted to it. Me, I'm bisexual and although obesity doesn't do it for me, neither does supermodel thin. When it comes to looking, I actually like healthy curves, on either sex.
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From:lamentables
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:34 am (UTC)
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Sheesh. I'd like to read the original paper instead of the press spin, to see just how wrong-headed the underlying assumptions are.
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From:communicator
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:50 am (UTC)
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Link from here here to the paper and the abstract.

Edited at 2008-11-02 08:51 am (UTC)
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From:lamentables
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:52 am (UTC)
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Thanks, yes, I'd read the abstract, I just need to check whether my Athens login will get me access to the full paper.
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From:pennski
Date:November 2nd, 2008 02:05 pm (UTC)
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I'm just reading "Fat is a feminist issue" for the first time (well, you could call it a seminal text and enjoy the irony) and I was stunned by the common perception that if a woman lost weight she'd automatically want more sex. Looks like some of these assumptions are still alive and well.

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