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12:36 pm - Suffolk killer
I am mentally comparing the current events in Suffolk to the Yorkshire Ripper. I am sending warmest thoughts to my lj-friends (and their RL friends) who live in the Ipswich area, and I am sure they know how to keep themselves safe, and will be ultra-careful.

I think the Ripper had a strong impact on the feelings and experiences of women growing up when I did, in the late seventies. The Shipman and Soham events led to permanent changes in our lives. I wonder what impact this will have in the long run.

It appears this man (could there be a group of them?) is killing at a much faster rate than the Yorkshire Ripper. It is almost unconceivable that a man could be killing several women a week, and yet carrying on in his normal life without attracting suspicion. It is always hard to know the extent to which partners (eg Sonia Sutcliffe, Rosemary West, Maxine Carr, Harold Shipman's wife) are innocently unaware, wilfully blind, or even complicit (I think the answer was different for all of these examples).

I can't help feel that this man must have gone into a frenzied state. To kill so many people in just a few days. How long can this go on?

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From:altariel
Date:December 13th, 2006 12:56 pm (UTC)
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I've also been thinking about all this in the Yorkshire Ripper :-(

My instinct - although I sincerely hope this isn't true - is that he may have been killing for some time. And that as he's been getting away with it, he's been taking more risks and possibly getting more desperate to be caught. The speed of it all is just horrifying.
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From:espresso_addict
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:10 pm (UTC)
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Me too, on both counts. It reminds me of the latest, rather chilling, Elizabeth George novel, With No One as Witness, where a serial killer in London kills three black boys on the margins of society without sparking attention before escalating to killing a white one.
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From:communicator
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:32 pm (UTC)
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Though it is good to know that the police are taking the killing of street prostitutes seriously this time. It said on the news there are probably only 30 in total in Ipswich, and five of them have been killed - that's a desperate rate.
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From:espresso_addict
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:34 pm (UTC)
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I hadn't heard that, I'd assumed more. That's horrific.
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From:altariel
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:41 pm (UTC)
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Though it is good to know that the police are taking the killing of street prostitutes seriously this time.

That really is the biggest difference, and such an important one.

I hadn't read that about only 30 prostitutes in Ipswich, that's an awful statistic.
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From:communicator
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:54 pm (UTC)
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30 street workers, there are no doubt many others in the business
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From:edge_of_ruin
Date:December 13th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC)
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5 out of 30 really is horrendous.
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From:buymeaclue
Date:December 14th, 2006 02:02 pm (UTC)
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It's great that the police are, but the article is horrific.

What if he runs out of prostitutes? My god.
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From:altariel
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:51 pm (UTC)
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One can only hope he's also become increasingly careless.
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From:communicator
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:31 pm (UTC)
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I was going to blog that three in two weeks was a lot, and they found two more bodies.
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From:hafren
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:47 pm (UTC)
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I think the Ripper had a strong impact on the feelings and experiences of women growing up when I did, in the late seventies. The Shipman and Soham events led to permanent changes in our lives. I wonder what impact this will have in the long run.

Well, the Brady-Hindley murders happened when I was growing up. The only long-term impact I recall was that before, parents had told kids that if they were lost and couldn't find a polceman they should ask a woman for help. After Hindley, that wasn't so easy to say, which I think is why women like my mother never saw it as possible to forgive her. But it didn't stop us going out to play. What permanent changes in our lives do you think Shipman and Soham led to?
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From:communicator
Date:December 13th, 2006 01:52 pm (UTC)
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Soham has led to the CRS checks - massive impact on people recruiting or applying to work with children and vubnerable adults. My sister was employed for three months as an educational psychologist before she could sit unaccompanied with a child. It is the worst botch of any government computer system, and that's saying something - a blog entry all of its own.

Shipman led to some changes in coroners and death certification IIRC, but I forget the details
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From:kalypso_v
Date:December 13th, 2006 03:23 pm (UTC)
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Cricket scorers at clubs with under-18 players now have to pass checks.
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From:communicator
Date:December 13th, 2006 03:53 pm (UTC)
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My son is waiting for clearance before he can take up a job serving breakfast in a home for the blind
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From:hafren
Date:December 13th, 2006 04:19 pm (UTC)
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I thought at least some of that attitude predated Soham, though I'm sure you're right about the specific CRS requirements. I know that long before that, coaching for kids at my husband's running club stopped because no adult was prepared to take the risk of doing it.
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From:communicator
Date:December 14th, 2006 11:39 am (UTC)
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I knew a woman called Nickey whose friend had been killed by him, and she suffered a breakdown. I visited her in hospital. I am thinking her friend was probably that student. It had a terrible effect on all of us I think.
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From:communicator
Date:December 14th, 2006 11:43 am (UTC)
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I always walk anywhere alone, and I used to hitch-hike alone too. I feel (wrongly) that I can take anyone on. I would be frightened if my daughter did anything like that though.
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Date:December 14th, 2006 12:33 am (UTC)

My thoughts are with the families of those murdered

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I also send my thoughts to all the women and children in Suffolk: especially to the families of those women murdered.
The Police calls for women to stay inside are reminiscent of the Yorkshire Rippers murders and the development of the international Reclaim the Night marches.
I call for a curfew on the Suffolk Killer - let him stay inside. I've just blogged my thoughts at: http://imaginifbusiness.blogspot.com/
Thanks for letting me join your discussion.
Megan in Australia.
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From:communicator
Date:December 14th, 2006 11:46 am (UTC)

Re: My thoughts are with the families of those murdered

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You are welcome indeed.

I agree - and I would like to hear the police call on men to stop visiting prostitutes (at least in Ipswich) for a couple of weeks. It doesn't seem too strong a request in the circumstances.

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