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05:23 pm - Working class hero
25 years since John Lennon's death. Those of us who are old enough, remember what we were doing when we heard. I was in an ethics lecture, when my friend Nick came and sat next to me and whispered to me. I was momentarily stunned, then started gabbling on like a fool about some irrelevancy, which I won't inflict on you. In those days I tried to shield myself from emotion. Remembering this I am wondering why none of us were paying any attention to the lecture.

When all my friends at school were into the Bay City Rollers and David Cassidy and David Essex and The Osmonds (etc. etc.) I was always in love with John Lennon. I'm not pretending this to make a point now - he was my Very Big Deal at age 13 or so. I ordered all his books (like A Spaniard in the Works) through Darlington library, and read them too.

By the time of his death I wasn't a massive fan. I was into the Sex Pistols and the Clash, and Lennon had become quite middle aged. I'm not criticising Lennon, it's just that being young I related to Lennon as a young man, full of spunk, not some married guy with kids.

The guy delivering the post at work just stopped to talk to me about Lennon he was saying 'if only he had survived, we need him now, what with the war in Iraq and everything'. I've never really spoken to this chap before. I wonder if Lennon would have wanted, or been able, to make a difference.

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From:srk1
Date:December 8th, 2005 05:40 pm (UTC)
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The guy delivering the post at work just stopped to talk to me about Lennon he was saying 'if only he had survived, we need him now, what with the war in Iraq and everything'.

Interestingly, McCartney very much threw his lot in with the hawks after 9/11 (most notably in that terrible 'Freedom' song) and, so far as I recall, didn't say much about Iraq. So I reckon it would have caused a split in the Beatles.
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From:communicator
Date:December 8th, 2005 05:52 pm (UTC)
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Lennon and McCartney hadn't seen eye to eye for a decade when John was shot. I agree though that they would have been on opposite sides. Funny how that was obvious to 13 year old me - which was the right one to like.
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From:altariel
Date:December 8th, 2005 05:50 pm (UTC)
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I remember just getting into the classroom (Junior 2) and someone telling me. I couldn't believe it. It was quite a big deal in Merseyside.
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From:communicator
Date:December 8th, 2005 05:54 pm (UTC)
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yeah, of course. It was a big deal to me too, but kind of divided off from the life I was living at that time. I sat and observed the silence in my own room, I think it was on the following Saturday or Sunday.
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From:kalypso_v
Date:December 8th, 2005 06:24 pm (UTC)
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Maybe Harold Pinter's taken on his mantle?
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From:communicator
Date:December 9th, 2005 09:24 am (UTC)
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Have you seen much coverage of Pinter's Nobel outside of the Guardian? Perhaps I've missed it.
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From:kalypso_v
Date:December 9th, 2005 01:03 pm (UTC)
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One of the problems with taking three daily newspapers is that they begin to blur and you can't remember who said what... They all covered the speech, obviously; I think I remember a Daily Telegraph headline on the lines of "Pinter spends half speech ranting about sins of US"; and there was a lot on Radio 4. Didn't see any television news that day. I thought it was a shame Channel 4 stashed it on More 4, though I confess I didn't watch it.

Talking of current affairs on the radio, Nick Clarke's going to lose his leg because of cancer - poor man! They're hopeful he'll recover after that.
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From:temeres
Date:December 8th, 2005 06:25 pm (UTC)
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I honestly can't remember where I was, what I was doing ect when I heard about it. I was still at school then so I must have heard it on the evening news, but it can't have made any great impact on me.
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From:communicator
Date:December 9th, 2005 09:22 am (UTC)
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you were too punk obviously
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From:immortalradical
Date:December 8th, 2005 07:35 pm (UTC)
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The guy delivering the post at work just stopped to talk to me about Lennon he was saying 'if only he had survived, we need him now, what with the war in Iraq and everything'.

Given his long-standing love and covering of black music, he would probably have also made a rap album at some point. So, erm, swings and roundabouts really. :P
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From:communicator
Date:December 9th, 2005 09:21 am (UTC)
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You'll be too young to remember but there were some dreadful attempts at comedy-rap by white guys of Lennon's age in the 80's. Kenny Everett did one for instance, and so did Tony Hawkes ('Stutter rap' - rhymes with utter crap). I don't think he'd have descended to quite that level.

I know this makes me sad but I do quite like Goldie Looking Chain.

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