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06:11 pm - SF film top fifty
With thanks to nwhyte here is the imdb top SF films ever. No dark star, no repo man. 'What were they thinking?' I've decided to star rate them 1-5.

1. Star Wars (1977) - ***
2. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) - ****
3. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - ****
4. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) - ****
5. Matrix, The (1999) - ****
6. Manchurian Candidate, The (1962) haven't seen
7. Incredibles, The (2004) ****
8. Metropolis (1927) - not seen
9. Alien (1979) - ***** should be #1
10. Clockwork Orange, A (1971) - haven't seen
11. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - ***
12. Aliens (1986) ****
13. Donnie Darko (2001) *****
14. Blade Runner (1982) - ***** should be #2
15. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) - ****
16. Bride of Frankenstein (1935) haven't seen
17. Day the Earth Stood Still, The (1951) - **
18. Star Wars: Episode VI - *
19. Young Frankenstein (1974) - I think I've seen a bit of it
20. Back to the Future (1985) **
21. King Kong (1933) **
22. Brazil (1985) - ****
23. Frankenstein (1931) haven't seen
24. Twelve Monkeys (1995) ****
25. Memories (1995) - what is it?
26. Terminator, The (1984) ****
27. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956) ***
28. Planet of the Apes (1968) haven't seen
29. Spider-Man 2 (2004) ***
30. X2 (2003) ***
31. Iron Giant, The (1999) ****
32. Fail-Safe (1964) don't know it
33. Thing, The (1982) ****** my #3, but not to everyone's taste
34. Minority Report (2002) - **
35. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) - *
36. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) ****
37. Abre los ojos (1997) - this was vanilla sky is spanish, right? Saw a bit of it.
38. Lost Horizon (1937) only seen the remake
39. Invisible Man, The (1933) not seen
40. Delicatessen (1991) not seen, but I want to
41. Truman Show, The (1998) ****
42. Kaze no tani no Naushika (1984) - don't know what that is
43. Shin seiki Evangelion Gekijô-ban: Air/Magokoro wo, kimi ni (1997) - don't know
44. Cité des enfants perdus, La (1995) - by the director of Alien 4, would like to see
45. Forbidden Planet (1956) ***
46. Akira (1988) ****
47. Solyaris (1972) *****
48. Night of the Living Dead (1968) have only seen bits
49. Innocence (2004/I) - an anime, haven't seen it
50. 2046 (2004) - I remember this film now, I haven't seen it, would like to

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From:archbishopm
Date:November 27th, 2004 10:21 am (UTC)
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La Cite des blah blah is excellent. Delicatessen was also directed by him.

42. Kaze no tani no Naushika (1984)

Isn't that a Miyazaki (sp?) film?
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From:espresso_addict
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:05 am (UTC)
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Not being particularly into sf as a film genre I was surprised at how many of these films I'd both seen & enjoyed. Both City of Lost Children & Delicatessen are fantastic films. I'm also glad Brazil made it so high.
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From:communicator
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:28 am (UTC)
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I'll watch Cite and Delicatessen then, soon as I get the chance. Yup, Brazil is great. It excited me tremendously when I first saw it.
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From:communicator
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
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I seem to remember he has one called Nausica or something? I could check of course.
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From:vilakins
Date:November 27th, 2004 04:48 pm (UTC)
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It's 'Nausicaa of the Valley of the Winds' by Miyazaki. I saw it this year at a film festival and now own all the Ghibli Studio films so far on DVD (got them last week). I'd highly recommend anything by Miyazaki; he has a great concern for the environment, writes strong and intelligent female characters, and the animation is stunning (if in a different style from Pixar). His 'Porco Rosso' is a paean to flying and the glories of the Mediterranean.
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From:communicator
Date:November 28th, 2004 04:53 am (UTC)
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I've only seen Spirited Away (my favourite ever animated film) and Princess Mononoke. I must get more if they are available
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From:vilakins
Date:November 28th, 2004 10:34 am (UTC)
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You can get a boxed set as I did of 12 films including those and all the other Miyazaki films I've seen plus more. glitterboy1 told me about it. Do an eBay search on 'studio ghibli archives'.
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From:vilakins
Date:November 28th, 2004 10:36 am (UTC)
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You'd love 'Nausicaa', 'Porco Rosso', and 'Laputa', I'm sure. I've never seen a Miyazaki I didn't love; I'm looking forward to seeing the others, by different artists from Ghibli.
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From:communicator
Date:November 28th, 2004 01:46 pm (UTC)
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Thanks. H just asked me today what I wanted for christmas.
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From:andrewducker
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:13 am (UTC)
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I should poitn out that those movies are voted for by anyone who wants to - there are many thousands of people rating those movies...
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From:communicator
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:26 am (UTC)
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The wisdom of crowds, then, because it's not a bad list
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From:kerravonsen
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:24 am (UTC)
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I have seen Metropolis... the plot was very simple, but it's amazing in its vision considering when it was made. You look at it, and you say "oh, hey, so that's where so-and-so got the idea for thus-and-such"...

I have also seen Planet of the Apes. It does deserve to be on the list, simply for the last scene (except of course that the last scene is nothing without what went on before) but I'm not sure where on the list it ought to go.

There seem to be a number of these I've not only not seen, but not heard of. Ah well, guess I'd better join the local video rental...

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From:communicator
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:30 am (UTC)
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It's a handy pointer to the acknowledged mainstream classics isn't it?

I'm not surprised what you say about Metropolis. Like the joke about Hamlet 'What's so clever? he just strung together a bunch of well known sayings and cliches'
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From:kerravonsen
Date:November 27th, 2004 02:29 pm (UTC)
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Oh yes, when I saw Hamlet for the first time, I kept on double-taking at the number of things I recognised.
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From:altariel
Date:November 28th, 2004 09:59 am (UTC)
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I have some posters of conceptual art from Metropolis, in colour. Blade Runner suddenly becomes derivative!
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From:temeres
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:32 am (UTC)
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I've only seen about twenty of them, mostly in the upper half of the poll. The more recent ones especially I'm not familiar with, since I'm not an avid cinema-goer, haven't yet signed up with the local Blockbuster and don't watch much telly.

Metropolis, yeah, that was good for its time. But where is Mad Max 2, Starship Troopers, Dark Star? Where is The Rocky Horror Picture Show?

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From:communicator
Date:November 27th, 2004 11:37 am (UTC)
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I agree with you about Dark Star for sure, it would be in my top ten. I love all films set in space, even the crap ones.
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From:temeres
Date:November 27th, 2004 01:15 pm (UTC)
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Even Battle Beyond the Stars? You've got to draw the line somewhere, you know:)
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From:kerravonsen
Date:November 27th, 2004 03:19 pm (UTC)
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But Battle Beyond the Stars is something one can point and laugh at.
Besides, it's an example of devolution. First the Seven Samurai, then The Magnificent Seven, then Battle Beyond the Stars...
Except that The Magnificent Seven isn't an example of devolution.
From:hardrada
Date:December 3rd, 2004 04:58 am (UTC)
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I beg to differ. "The Magnificent Seven" is as big a step down from "Seven Samurai" as "Battle Beyond the Stars" is from "The Magnificent Seven".

That's not to say "The Magnificent Seven" is a poor movie in its own right. It's not. But it is an entertainment. "Seven Samurai" was that, and far, far more. It carried deep and profound messages about class structure, inhumanity and alienation. Kikuchiyo's explosion was an attempt to cast a realistic, pragmatic light on the code of Bushido, which had become venerated to the point of distortion. It was Kurosawa's apology for the legacy the Samurai culture had bequeathed to the Japanese mindset in the Second World War. "The Magnificent Seven" copied the outward form of this scene, and others like it, but it could not hope to capture the deep, resonant themes the original film encompassed so masterfully.
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From:icepick666
Date:November 27th, 2004 02:25 pm (UTC)
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not sure i call donnie darko and clockwork orangesci fi , but at a pinch. city of lost children is great, solaris mispelt. fail safe is the potential nuclear war one where they swap cities to destroy from memory. good list tho!
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From:communicator
Date:November 28th, 2004 04:52 am (UTC)
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I think that spelling might be a transcription of the cyrillic original, but I'm only guessing

they swap cities to destroy from memory

Haven't heard of it. i just imdb'd it, and it was remade in 2000, but I don't think that was released over here

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From:icepick666
Date:November 28th, 2004 02:24 pm (UTC)
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meant to be a classic, nuclear showdown where a russian city is destroyed so yanks sacrice one of their cities....must see it again!
From:hardrada
Date:December 3rd, 2004 05:22 am (UTC)
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It was released over here, and the remake was excellent. Tight, intelligent, gripping, emotional, and beautifully shot. I thought it excelled the original, but I won't hold it against anyone for disagreeing!
From:hardrada
Date:December 3rd, 2004 05:25 am (UTC)
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Oops. Knickers in a twist. Was referring to the remake of "Solaris".
From:hardrada
Date:November 29th, 2004 08:46 am (UTC)
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Alien 3 is vastly superior to Alien, but I know that is a heretical viewpoint.
From:hardrada
Date:November 30th, 2004 06:43 am (UTC)
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Oops. For "Alien", read "Aliens".
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From:communicator
Date:December 2nd, 2004 02:01 am (UTC)
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Your comment encouraged me to get out the DVD of Alien3 last night, and it was mch better than I remembered. I think the first (and until now only) time I watched it I was so wrenched by the callous writing-off of Hicks and Newt that I closed down my eomtional engagement with the rest of the film. On re-viewing though, I can see that there is some superb stuff in there, and of course the whole loss thing just accelerates from start to finish, it's all about death and closing down.

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