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11:05 pm - What are we going to do - clone him?
I read the Alien 4 script. You can tell Whedon was developing the Firefly concept as he wrote it. It could almost pass as a 'Firefly/Alien' crossover fanfic. The smugglers are almost the Firefly crew. But the only character, interestingly, who is retained more or less intact between this script and the eventual Firefly series is Jayne, whose character is called 'Johner' in Alien 4, and played by Ron Perlman.

Reading the script without the intrusive ugly-factor introduced by Mr Perlman (bless him) made the similarity of the two characters more obvious than it was watching the film.

Also made me think - just how superficial am I? Seriously, I like Jayne, and I didn't like Johner (no more than any other character anyway). And there's only one difference between them: Adam Baldwin has a pretty face, Ron Perlman is butt-ugly (IMDB comment 'Frequently appears as characters who are deformed or not human'). Tragic isn't it?

To be fair I think there's a bit more to it than that. Don't you think it's more interesting if a character has characteristics that point in different directions (no, I am not scrabbling for justification)? And a lot of what I like about Jayne is that he acts like ugly Johner, but is unaware that he's a cutie-pie. Having a girl's name kind of rubs it in.

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From:archbishopm
Date:August 6th, 2004 04:32 pm (UTC)
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Psht, oh come on, aren't they a beautiful couple?



Although not as lovely as the one true romantic pairing in the film...



Eheheheheh.

*tap tap* Is this thing on?

All right, all right, I'm off to buy glass fruit...
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From:communicator
Date:August 7th, 2004 02:45 am (UTC)
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In the script Gediman (Brad) gets hung from the ceiling and eaten by a big albino alien, all the while exclaiming that he 'wouldn't miss it for the world'. He also gets to snog Sigourney in a dream sequence culminating in her tongue going through the back of his head. Can't remember if these things happen in the film.
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From:archbishopm
Date:August 7th, 2004 10:37 am (UTC)
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He also gets to snog Sigourney in a dream sequence culminating in her tongue going through the back of his head. Can't remember if these things happen in the film.

Not that bit! Dammit!!! [having successfully acquired glass fruit I now venture forth in search of Alien Resurrection porn...]
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From:several_bees
Date:August 6th, 2004 11:05 pm (UTC)
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I think I probably am about that shallow, but only with regard to a very few characters. My fondness for Fred from Angel is probably almost exclusively because her type of prettiness is one that particularly appeals to me (partly because it's one that vaguely approximates my own; I am a horrible narcissist-monster, and persistently susceptible to pale girls with wavy brown hair and pointy noses). Batman from the Batman Beyond/Batman of the Future (can't remember which was the UK title) cartoon series is whiny and obtuse with some regularity, but is pale and angular and has dark hair, which is the genre-for-blokes that's most likely to make me go "ooh" and which therefore renders his flaws forgivable.

In my defence... um... tsk, I don't have anything to say here. But... pretty! Pretty!
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From:communicator
Date:August 7th, 2004 02:48 am (UTC)
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I don't know whether I've ever developed a crush on a cartoon character. My daughter, amusingly, has a crush on Sirius Black when he was her age but isn't attracted to him in the films or the books. So that's a character that she has extrapolated. Tsk, youngsters.

I think you are right that one is attracted to semi-idealised versions of onesself - though perhaps not so much in real life.
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From:executrix
Date:August 7th, 2004 06:36 am (UTC)
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It's sort of a projective test--"I think I am perfect, therefore want my duplicate" or "I have certain valuable traits and lack others, and seek a complement" vs. "Me--yuck!--I want someone as unlike myself as possible."

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