November 15th, 2011
|07:35 am - Attacking peaceful protesters = sure win|
All the talk about Occupy Wall Street and its spin-offs around the world was that it would all start to wind up pretty soon, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, as the weather gets much colder. The inexorable forces of nature would whittle it away, and rather ignominiously too. In other words, all the authorities had to do was sit still and then call the protesters lightweights with no real commitment: blah blah central heating, blah blah living in your parents' basement, blah blah iPhones, blah blah get a haircut etc.
So how stupid do the authorities have to be to pick today, the 15th November, to fight the protesters? Dumb. This puts OWS right back in the spotlight, with a platform for - nay a physical demonstration of - their major points about the complicity of governmental structures with the monied elite.
Incidentally, talking about dumb, how stupid is Frank Miller to attack the OWS protesters as 'rapists'? The entirely well-balanced and not at all hysterical writer added:
"In the name of decency, go home to your parents, you losers. Go back to your mommas' basements and play with your Lords Of Warcraft. Or better yet, enlist for the real thing. Maybe our military could whip some of you into shape. They might not let you babies keep your iPhones, though."
Oh dear. Frank you left out the blah blahs.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 08:30 am (UTC)|| |
Needless to say, Miller has not himself served in the military.
I know. What a hoot! He drew some big guys fighting a few times though so that's OK.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 04:51 pm (UTC)|| |
Strangely enough, I'm not surprised by that piece of information.
I'm tickled by how totally Miller is echoing the accusations hurled at the Israeli social protest (which I don't think got a lot of play on the international scene, but I'd just like it stated that we were occupying stuff before it was the thing to do) this summer - the protesters are hedonists, they're spoiled city kids, they're whiners, they don't get that there are real problems that have to be dealt with, etc., etc. It's equally untrue in both cases, but an Israeli critic who says that there's a war on and therefore we don't have time for this social justice malarkey at least has the first fact right. I'm struggling to imagine what world Miller lives in that he thinks the fact that the US was a victim of terror ten years ago and then engaged in two wars of choice, one of which it has since withdrawn from, is any way relevant to the Occupy movement.
Gosh, I didn't really know about the Israeli protest either. I think young people nowadays can't win. Either they get painted as conformist and cowardly, or trouble-making and whiny. And in either case told to work for next to nothing, but not be dependent on their parents.
Miller seems to just blurge stuff up out from his subconscious, and it's not a pretty sight.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 03:17 pm (UTC)|| |
The Occupy protestors get it two ways:
There full time = you've got nothing better to do because you're unemployed! Get a job you lazy scrounger!
There part time = you're not even committed enough to quit your job and stick around all the time! Hypocrite!
Plus, I saw one of you with a mobile phone that one time, which proves you're really rich.
Well, of course! Everybody knows that poverty has been eliminated in America.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 09:26 am (UTC)|| |
Frank Miller's poorly thought-out commentary shows that he is not critical of actual rapists
in the Occupy movement, but merely using the concept of rape to score cheap points in his dimissal of the movement, and to evoke a kneejerk response against the protesters. Not surprising, really, as he is the person for whom one of my flist uses the tag 'well done frank all the women are dead'.
Violence against women is an ongoing issue for the left I think. It must be addressed better than it is at the moment. I didn't know that had happened in Glasgow, but I think it is a danger with any mass movement. Men on the left must take it more seriously. But in Miller's case I agree he is not speaking in good faith. He has a very screwed up attitude to women, as you rightly point out.
Public gatherings of often young and naive people will attract sexual predators, and often this is not dealt with effectively because people are scared of being accused of prudish or oppressive of sexuality.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 12:07 pm (UTC)|| |
I have been thinking about that tag too.
Can't say I'm surprised. In terms of drawing comics I owe a lot to Frank. I think I can say that without his example I'd never have got things off the ground. But his message has always been deeply conservative. In fact I don't think you can tell a Batman story from any other perspective. I think his big mistake was to take that message off the drawn page. As objectionable as his views are, he'd have taken a lot more people with him if he'd channelled his bile into his work.
Yes. Like Mishima or Ezra Pound. I sometimes think artists have to be either left wing or completely mad fascist. But somehow they don't win many people over to their fascist ways. People stop at the threshold and sort of peer over and think, actually I don't want to go there.
|Date:||November 15th, 2011 04:49 pm (UTC)|| |
The whole debacle reminds me of that saying 'the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.' The crappier the protestors get treated, the more passionate and resolute they will become.
And Frank Miller can bite me.
Or like they say in Monty Python and the Holy Grail 'Now we see the violence inherent in the system.'
|Date:||November 21st, 2011 11:32 pm (UTC)|| |
I saw this today
and I thought you might like to see it, if you haven't already.
I hadn't see it, thank you. Olbermann's good isn't he? He has the visual and vocal signalling of 'patrician' and he uses it to subversive effect.
|Date:||November 22nd, 2011 08:16 pm (UTC)|| |
I had a similar thought, to wit: "That guy looks like a suit but he's warming up for the Hippie Sarcasm Olympics!"